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♪ >> greg: back monday at the five. a brand new "red eye" returns monday as well. gavin mckinnus and dan soter. >> tv's andy levy for the post game wrapup. >> what is new? >> a friend mckinley mine has a charity called winged warriors.org and they teach veterans how to fly planes for free and actually auctioning off a cessna. go to the website winged warriors and buy a ticket and win a plane. >> very cool. >> p.a.b.? >> i got nothing. how do you top winning a cessna. have a great weekend, folks. >> bernie what is going on? >> imus monday morning fox business on the radio all over the country. and i will be appearing in church tomorrow with bleary
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eyes picking up my palms. happy palm sunday. >> greg: pretend like you care andy. >> not really he checked out a long time ago. >> greg: excellent show. i enjoyed tonight and i hope america did, too. i think this was a special, special evening for all of us. >> i thought it was stupid. >> greg: shut up! you're wrong! >> judge jeanine: justice delayed is justice tess denied. when crime occurs the investigation must begin immediately. i know this first hand aces the chief law enforcement officer of a county of a million people i made sure my prosecutors rapidly responded to the scene of every homicide. evidence had to be secured. forensics analyzed. witnesses identified. the true facts had to be frozen. and for the most part, we solved crime without the
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benefit of videotapes, odded yes tapes, drones, eyewitnesses and a room full of people watching the crime take place over an 8 hour period. without this immediacy, the passage of time would dim memories, allow witnesses to be influenced, indeed even lessen the resolve of those seeking retribution. hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for joining us. president obama promised us more than six months ago that those responsible for the murder of four americans in benghazi would be brought to justice. >> make no mistake, justice will be done. >> judge jeanine: but saying you you are going to get justice is not the same as getting it. this week obama's chief law enforcement officer top cop robert mueller the head of the fbi testified before a congressional committee why the suspects believed responsible for the murders of a the
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americans have not yet been brought to justice. it took the fbi three weeks to even get into benghazi the crime scene because it wasn't safe. three weeks? how is it possible that cnn got in just days after the attack and found the ambassador's journal where he writes of his fears of al-qaeda? how is it possible that other reporters just days after found our classified intel logs that should have been destroyed in the golden hour following the attack? last i checked, most fbi agents carry guns and reporters carry notebooks. what could possibly be the reason for the failure to not only prosecute those responsible or even take them into custody let alone interrogate them? and make no mistake. we know who they are.
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they were on camera. there was a drone and a video. they actually took credit for the attack. witnesses and authorities have identified ahmed obey atallah as a ring leader in the attack in benghazi. yet he doesn't even bother to hide defiance and hatred for the united states. he walks around openly in benghazi in his sandals drinking cocktails. a leader of ail sharronia. al-is sharia. why have we not even spoken to this guy? >> there were hurdles at the outset. benghazi did not have a law enforcement element to o. r. room provide on the one -- element to provide, on the one hand, security and on the other hand an ability to act as our partners or to assist in developing witnesses.
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>> judge jeanine: but now the director is optimistic. >> we have overcome many of those hurdles with the help of libyan authorities who have exhibited a willingness to support us in our investigation and it is progressing. >> judge jeanine: is really? six months and $132 million later and we are still wishing and hoping. and then there is ali harzai. a member of an extremist network with ties to al-qaeda actually in custody in tunisia. >> they were in people waiting for five weeks. the initial time they went out. >> they were in -- they were in tripoli for a good long time waiting to go in. >> but into tunisia, too. because of the attack on the embassy in tunisia on i think it was september 14 three days later. >> judge jeanine: really? five weeks and we give tunisia
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$320 million? and finally. abu jamal set up the train camps in north africa for terrorists. we he haven't spoken to him either. >> when i egypt i gave them a letter specifically asking president morrisey to allow the fbi to interview the person they have in custody. has the fbi been given access to the individual jamal? egypt? >> no, not yet. >> and just last week secretary of state kerry gave the egyptians $250 million and last month a few f-16s to boot. now, cia director john brennan says we need to respect those countries and let them do their job. >> we press our partners and foreign governments to hold individuals and to allow us access to it. sometimes their laws do not allow you that to happen. i think the united states
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government has to respect these governments' right to in fact enforce their laws appropriately. >> judge jeanine: really? we give them money. we get nothing in return other than their hatred for americans and we are waiting, wishing and hoping? and what about the benghazi survivors? why hasn't the president or hillary visited any of them? could it be because those survivors might have a different narrative and then say i told them what really happened. it is called deniability, folks. the white house says we can't talk to them because they are involved in highly sensitive positions. >> i think it is worth noting that government employees in this case some of them in highly sensitive positions have responsibilities that existed before and exist after an attack like that. but investigation is ongoing. the fact of the matter is it is
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under investigation. >> judge jeanine: but the survivors could be made available to members of the intelligence community who have security clearances. we haven't we heard from them? >> why valu have we not heard m any of the benghazi survivors? >> well, i can't tell you the answer to that. i can tell you that i have visited with one of the survivors. >> will we hear from them? >> i don't know what the circumstances are of any requests to talk to them or not. >> the white house is certainly not preventing anybody from having access to any of the is survivors of the benghazi attack. >> bottom line is they feel that they cannot come forth. they have been told to be quiet and at the end of the day we can't let this administration or any other administration get away with hiding from the american people and the congress people who were there in real time to tell the story. >> judge jeanine: senator lindsay graham. a man who understands the importance of eyewitnesses and the importance of justice. whey want to know is, is any
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one in custody in libya or anywhere else for that matter? how many suspects are at large? how many have been in custody in their home country and then released? how can we possibly leave to the libyan government the same government that couldn't protect our embassy and couldn't even protect the fbi and provide them access to the crime scene the authority or jurisdiction to investigate and apprehend those responsible for the murders of four americans? i have said it before and i will say it again, justice delayed is justice denied. we are going to have much more on that benit benghazi survivoa moment. first to ice. how can the obama administration risk our safety by putting criminal immigrants back on the streets. >> listen we release people every day and the idea that we are going to review every
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single person that is released. >> you released thousands of people every day? >> we release thousands of people every month. >> judge jeanine: with me is virginia congressman, chair of the house judiciary committee who held the hearings this week on the release of criminal immigrant detainees. mr. chairman thank you for being with us this evening. >> good to be with you, judge. >> judge jeanine: i.c.e. really have to release the criminals already ruled by a judge to be the worst of the worst? >> no. thy did not have to be released. we have shown that they had is several pots of money they could turn to, to handle sequestration and quite frankly i believe this was part of a larger effort on the part of the administration to close air traffic control towers, to threaten to not inspect meat for safety in our meat processing facilities tortion suspend white house tours all in an effort to suggest that
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cutting 2.5% out of the $3.7 trillion federal budget would somehow be a bad thing to do when we have a trillion dollars deficit. >> judge jeanine: with all due respect, i understand the budget problems you want to scare people but you don't let criminals out of jail. especially people who came here illegally and have been ruled to o. r. room be the worst of the worst. how can the ice director. i want you to take a look at something else he said. >> i did not want to rob peter to pay paul and my view you is that we need to maintain the operations of the agency. i don't want to furlough people and i need to make rationale judgments across the ppas that we are given by the appropriations committee. >> judge jeanine: your response to that, mr. chairman? >> well, the is response is that we don't want peter or paul out on the streets robbing somebody else. so one of my colleagues on the committee, the subcommittee chairman made that very point. there was no need to release
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these folks on to the streets is. several hundred of them have been convicted of significant crimes. theft. identity theft. fraud. and so son. all of them had been determined to be deportable. some of them were right on the edge of deportation. so one wonders why you didn't send them back to their home country and save money that way rather than releasing them out on to the streets to perpetrate crimes against american citizens. >> judge jeanine: and the 5% that they had to save they could have saved by other means. they had the money and carryover is that, correct? >> they did. they had several funds that they could turn to. and we he have a process that is commonly used by the appropriations committee where you go to the committee and only the committee, don't have to have it go through the entire congress and ask for funds to be reprogrammed. they had several pot is of money with hundreds of millions
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in each that they could have turned to. >> judge jeanine: and didn't do it. >> that's right. >> judge jeanine: one more question. if we have a choice, shouldn't we release american criminals as opposed to those people who he enter the country illegally and then release crimes? >> i wouldn't release any criminals on to the streets. americans would be appalled either way. >> judge jeanine: i agree. but 2200 out and some of them rearrested. thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you, judge. >> judge jeanine: six months since the massacre in benghazi and still no word from not a one of the surviv survivors. where are they? "justice" investigates next. >> and later. we are still sending billions of dollars in f-16s over to countries like egypt, libya tunisia.
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they feel afraid to tell it. it is important they come forward to tell their story. best evidence of what happened in benghazi is not a bunch of politicians in washington trying to cover their political [ bleep ]. it is the people who o. r. room lived through it. i will do everything i can to get them before the congress and the american people in an appropriate fashion to learn first hand what happened in benghazi. >> senator lindsey graham echoing what many of you want to know. where are the 30 odd survivors from the attack in benghazi? with me is former cia on rative mike baker from boise and fox news military analyst colonel david hunt. good evening, gentlemen. >> hi. >> hey there. >> judge jeanine: it has been six months. we haven't heard from any of the survivors. mike, why? >> a terrific question. by the way, firs first of all,k you very much for being one of the few voices still willing to beat the benghazi drum. it is incredible important not just to people in the intel and
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military communities but the population out there even if the white house just doesn't care. senator graham used that one phrase in the appropriate fashion. and that is important here because a number of these individuals that we are talking about the survivors of this were in sensitive positions and remain in cover positions. there are mechanisms in place, though, to gather their testimony. and the problem has been that right from the very beginning, you know, we talk about how long it took the fbi to get in there, how long it has taken to get our hands on the detainees or the is suspects and how long it is taking to appropriately get testimony from some o. r. room of the individuals that were there. the whole thing has been a complete -- >> judge jeanine: they are not all in sensitive positions. there are some who can come out and talk. what leverage do you think is being used to prevent them from talking? i truly believe they are being told not to talk. >> senator graham said that also. >> judge jeanine: right. >> about ten of them that are
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in mike's former business. the rest which is 20 to 25 are state department employees. >> judge jeanine: regular employees. >> and the list hasn't been released. and no one has been allowed to talk to them. this is about granularity and about we need to hear, people need to hear what happened to get a better appreciation besides the news stories you hear about what it was like on the ground. people died. wounded and people shot at and brave people from the agency saved a lot of people's lives and the survivor can show us that. >> judge jeanine: and so what leverage could they use? in other words, what are they afraid of? >> well, the white house is afraid of the publicity. >> i'm someone who worked, i'm not some -- what are they saying to me? >> you can't talk to the press. you are not the going to talk to congress. >> judge jeanine: isn't there somebody out there that says to hell with you i will be a whistle blower it is not hike you said it was. mike? >> well, i mean this is operating on two levels. human nature to want to get out
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and get your story out and to correct some of the real misstatements made. and i don't -- i don't have a problem with the venue for the people. i don't necessarily think you want to take them whether they were state department or agency personnel they were in sensitive positions and working on sensitive information. the venue needs to be appropriate. you can certainly do that. we are not trying to reinvent the wheel here. use the same mechanisms in place before to collect testimony from people in classified positions or working in classified operations. get them out there and do this. i don't have a good answer for you. when you say why hasn't it been done yet? it is like everything else related to benghazi. it doesn't make any sense. >> judge jeanine: colonel, the president hillary have not spoken to any 69 of th of the ? >> outside of the airport when they talked to the survivors and their wives. what we learned since the last time we talked is the president never gave an order.
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there is an authority only the president can sign. it will get kind of embarrassing when you you get to the point is why didn't the military react which they clear early could have within the eight hours. because the president of the united states never told them to and it has to o. r. roo to e writing. and we have clinton worried about the next presidential election. >> some of the people there when the coffins come in, the parents said they weren't honest with us. mike very quickly, the fbi doing an investigation. do you think that that will be concluded? we'll ever know what the results of that is in the near future? >> no, i got a great deal of respect for the bureau but this investigation has been problematic from the beginning and colonel hunt is absolutely right. there was no order given. think about this. there was no guarantee we were going to save lives but get the boots on the ground and we he would have secured what was an attack, and a crime scene and then the bureau could have been
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the president is trying to step up. he is trying to do his fair share after the sequester was announced he said he will stop the white house tours for school children. meanwhile within a few days the president signs an extra $250 million to send to egypt. >> judge jeanine: you heard are that right. $250 million in aide to egypt. along with a few f-16s and
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abrams tanks to a country under the control of the muslim brotherhood whose own president made antiamerican statements. with me is terrorism analyst eric stackleback from d.c. and middle east expert and fox news contributor lisa. welcome to both of you. eric, i will go to you first. why are we sending them money? what do we get from them? >> look, judge, this is basically a case of extortion. the ea gettians are extorting this money and saying if you don't give us the money the peace treaty with israel is out o the window. judge, no matter how much money we give them, no matter how much high tech weaponry, that peace treaty with israel is going to be broken. not a matter of with. it is a matter of when. this is who the muslim brotherhood is. >> judge jeanine: hasn't the new president been derelict and not even recognizing the camp david accord, this he has not even recognized it, has he? >> he has not recognized it and he is cozying up to
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ahmadinejad. the immediate could have paid more attention to that trip. it was very important. everything is changing. we basically started giving them the aide in order for them to be the peacekeepers in the region and be a moderate voice in the middle east. everything is changing and so should our views on the situation. we need to call the shots. we can't have them calling the shots when we are writing the checks and they are just cashing them. >> judge jeanine: i still don't understand it. you both agree and we all agree. you say we don't want to be extorted. i mean what are they he going to do to us? >> they can't do -- >> judge jeanine: go ahead. >> if we use the full might of american power which we used to before this administration, judge, they can't do anything to us. but look the muslim brotherhood this is who they are. the obama administration is convinced that the muslim brotherhood is a moderating force in the middle east. they are a counter weight to the really bad guys in al-qaeda but i'm here are to tell you the muslim brotherhood for 85 years, judge, since they were founded have been all about taking on the west.
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wiping every jew off the map and re-establishing that global just because they are in power now they are not going to magically moderate. hamas didn't moderate when they came to power and neither did the taliban and neither will the brotherhood. >> judge jeanine: what is interesting and, of course, president obama i believe just landed from his trip and in orare dan with abdullah he is the one who said the muslim brother arehood is wolfs in sheeps clothing. the arab world is telling us this. >> it is true. here is the secret. we are here to stay. every analyst predictd that one. we asked mubarak to step down who is going to take over? is muslim brotherhood. we need them. they helped us on 9/11. they helped us in intelligence and we need them and need to have some sort of influence in the region. so what needs to happen is that we need to redirect and repurpose the money.
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we need to go over there and find the secular elements within th the see sighty. and the silver lining to the arab spring if egypt or libya or what going on in the bloody civil war in syria is there are secular elements in society or they wouldn't be out on the streets. unfortunate that the political vacuum was filled by the muslim brotherhood. >> judge jeanine: lisa makes a great point. maybe it is an opportunity for us to get in there and make friends. we you look at what has been going on and not even having access to the guys that we believe it responsible for benghazi it is kind of crazy. >> lisa made the key point. the power vacuum with the so called arab spring has been filled by radical islamists and judge it will happen time and time again in all of these countries. i would like to found arab thomas jeffersons throughout but they get drown out and
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bullied out of the way by the islamists who are the most ruthless and that is the key point in the middle east. they are the most the ruthless and they will win out every time. >> judge jeanine: what is interesting speaking of enemies, many of the ones in gitmo whose own countries won't take them back, by the way, are now going to have is like a new upgrade. they say there is about $195 million to upgrade gitmo to make it a little more enemy friendly. what is going on with us? >> we definitely need to recheck the list and see where all of this money is going. president obama and john kerry are promising money left and right. again, throwing good money after bad. but we need to be writing the checks but we have to pay more attention to where it is going and have more of a control over where it is spent. >> judge jeanine: and final question to you, eric. rand paul tried to i believe had a resolution that we limit the money to egypt and, of course, it didn't pass. do the people in congress i
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mean don't they think that they aboutverage at least benghazi from some of the countries? how tough is that. in. >> now, that tough. we can't reason bring the people behind benghazi to justice. the administration wants to evacuate the middle east and leave it behind. they are reshifting the focus now, judge, to the pacific theater. emptying the middle east and willingly handing it over to the islamists. willingly this administration is doing that. aiding and abetting the rise of the muslim brotherhood throughout the region. >> judge jeanine: last word quickly. >> the bottom line in the middle east, if you want to hate us you can hate us for free. we don't have to pay you to do that. >> judge jeanine: thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you, judge. >> judge jeanine: coming up the jodi arias murder trial. week number 800. flipping the bird and more. here is tonight's insta-poll question. an ohio prosecutor indicted punxsutawney phil and is now
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the mathematician turned mercedes dealer garnered his wealth in russia's privatization period in the early '90. he left russia seeking political asylum in britain. his death remains unexplained. i'm marianne rafferty. now, back to "justice" with judge jeanine. ministry. now, back to the judge. >> did she have an interaction with travis or something that made you upset? >> they were facing each other very close and he was holding her around the waist and she had her arms around his shoulder and had this very sexy black gown on. very generous cleavage. kind of pressed up against his chest and he looked like he was loving every minute of it. i just got this feeling inside like my stomach flip flopped like i couldn't believe he was doing that. >> judge jeanine: the woman jodi was just talking about in
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the sexy black gown who she says hugged travis alexander is clancy talbot. she joins me from salt lake city. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> judge jeanine: i understand you are not the only person that jodi was angry with. talk to me about what happened and why she was angry with you? >> well, i am not sure exactly why she was angry with me. but apparently she thought -- she was pretty jealou jealous l of travis' friends, male or female but especiall especiall. i didn't know she was angry until the next day she confronted me in the rest room and was confronting me telling me that travis was hers, they were in a relationship. she wanted to let the me knee that she was upyou set with him and i really wasn't sure why she was upset with him.
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and my friend came in and finally to find out what was taking so long and jodi was shaking and she just kept saying the same thing over and over. she apparently was suspicious or figured something was happening that shouldn't have been. i'm not sure. >> judge jeanine: were you afraid of her? >> i got a really creepy feeling from her the first time i met her so i wasn't necessarily afraid of her. i just didn't -- i wasn't comfortable around her and didn't like the feeling i got being around her. i tolerated her because of travis and i was a good friend of travis and so i was polite to her. but she gave me a really eerie feeling from the first time i met her. >> judge jeanine: you you had been friends with travis for 20 years and in fact were there when travis first met jodi. is that correct? >> i was friends for travis since 2005. it wasn't 20 years. that is probably another friend
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of his. but i met him through prepaid legal. we were both executive directors. we went on a lot of trips together with the executive directors from the company. there was probably about ten of us that went snowmobiling, four wheeling, things like that on a monthly basis. besides our are conventions and stuff for the company. we were around each other quite a bit. >> and you have been watching her in the courtroom clancy. how would you compare her behavior with you in the restroom with the behavior that robotic behavior we have been seeing in the courtroom? >> well, she always had no real emotion. if you talked to any one they really don't know anything about jodi unless it is, you know, something they learned from someone else. she didn't talk about herself or any one in her past, her life. anything like that. so she has never had really -- she always had that blank no
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affect type of a personality but as far as not being -- as far as being someone with low self-esteem that is not true. she is very aggressive when she wants to be and, yeah, i was really uncomfortable in the restroom looking back now it scares me but at the time i was just uncomfortable and really didn't understand what her problem was because travis was like a brother to me. he wasn't -- there was nothing between travis and i. i have married for 20 years so. >> judge jeanine: and quickly, clancy, i understand travis showed up at an event with another girl and she shows up and says to everyone that she is travis' girlfriend. a little bizarre. did people suspect that something was off with this woman? >> that was actually the second time i met h her and travis was having -- there was an event in arizona and travis was just kind of letting everyone stay at his house and he told jodi there is not the room for you you here because he haded a girlfriend at the time or he
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was seeing another girl at the time dating. so she just showed up anyway. he told her she couldn't stay there. she interaccused herself as his -- introduced herself as his girlfriend. he said they have been on a couple of dates but she was not his girlfriend. she ended up sleeping there on the floor next to his christmas tree. >> judge jeanine: thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> and i also want to the mention we do have a fund set up through travis alexander legacy .com and that was set up by his close friend chris hughes and we wanted to mention that for the family. >> on the website you will see that. thank you again. >> judge jeanine: coming up, is jodi arias getting closer to the needle? and speak of execution. be sure to vote in the insta-poll. does the groundhog have to go? how mad are you that you took out your spring coat and it is still winter? let me know what you think. ...so you say men are superior drivers?
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it is possible it was actually due to the killing but because of the story she constructed she had to attribute it rather to this made up story. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, i don't. i'm speculating. >> right. made it up right now. speculating.
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>> no, judgment. clinical judgment. >> ju used the word speckulating, didn't you. in. >> okay. i used the word. >> sure. >> judge jeanine: i love this when witnesses break down on the stand like that. so is jodi arias suffering from post traumatic stress disorder or just plain lying again? with me defense attorney and fox news contributor arthur aidala and dr. robby ludewig, a fred tisi. bad week for th defense. >> jurors are allowed to ask question. attack him from dead on. she lied to you over and over and over again and yet outraged form an opinion and then when you get the real answer from her you don't retest her to see if the original prognosis of ptsd was confirmed and he is like yeah, i did. >> it is horrible for him
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because also a person can lie and feign certain illnesses. i don't think she he qualifies for post traumatic stress. if the only thing is she is not remembering important events that happened in her crime or during the crime that should not qualify for post traumatic stress mat stress. >> judge jeanine: there is no way to tell whether or not they are lying and ma lingering or feigning. >> this guy is not ready for prime time. >> judge jeanine: the necessary? >> he got beaten on cross like the punching bag with the sand on the bottom. he was terrible. his testimony is there not to tell us what happened on why she did it. it is to bolster up her testimony saying why she was so bad for ten days on cross because she can't remember anything. you have to call a three day horrible witness to bolster a ten day horrible witness. there will have to be another witness to bolster this guy.
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>> she never made ought a real self-defense. >> judge jeanine: don't even ask me. >> she is supposed to say i thought he was going to kill me. >> i was afraid. >> exactly. i had no choice and she did just the opposite. she said i wasn't afraid. >> but people with post traumatic stress worry about their future and they are afraid of their future and they are not confident in their future and saying i know i'm going to get off and people will find me innocent. that in and of itself says maybe she doesn't have post traumatic stress. >> it is not for people who caused the trauma. she took a gun and went to his house and shot him and stabbed him 37 times and says oh, i got post traumatic stress. >> judge jeanine: almost chopped his head off. looks like the jury is a little fed up, too, guys. take a look at this one. >> you said transient global amnesia can be caused by sexual intercourse emergent in hot or cold water and a number of other things. is the list you presented all
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inclusive or could it also be caused by something such as the trauma associated with getting a bad hair cut for example. >> i would say that is unlikely because the traumas that cause this are typically physiologically connected. >> judge jeanine: i think the jury is fed up. >> fed up. 18 days. your honor in your career did you ever have one witness on the stand for 18 days? >> i wish i could have had somebody on for 18 days. >> at least they get to ask some questions so they can vent. >> have you read the questions from the jury to this doctor. i was surprised the defense didn't say doctor this jury based on the questions think you are complete buffoon. are you? he would say no and then say why? >> judge jeanine: you are a real trial attorney because you can read a jury and willing to say and get up to the witness
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and say explain yourself. >> he is hired help. you can get an expert to say anything. that her astrological sign made h her more vulnerable to a bad relationship. you can find somebody to say that. >> if you testified the jury would be weighing your credibility. i had experts who testified to ptsd and they said the expert was excellent and genuine and professional. this guy was a terrible expert. >> in fact, at one point he made a comment about how he was thrown off by the veracity of martinez questions. >> the prosecutor. >> the prosecutor. >> two things. first of all, he shouldn't be he getting in a fight with a guy like that as a professional. and secondly it looks like he is trying to help her and fight her battle for her. i thought it really hurt him. >> do they know that the expert was manipulated by jodi and gave her a self-help look for self-esteem?
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>> judge jeanine: really helpful that the defendant accused of murder can manipulate the shrink who is going to tell us what she is thinking. psychologist in case you didn't know he was fined by new jersey regulators for bartering counseling sessions for dental work according to a defense order and assessing a child in a child custody case without talking to the child. >> i'm surprised he still has a license. >> sometimes as you defense attorney you are forced to make chicken salad out of chicken you know what. >> judge jeanine: i heard lemmon to lemonades. >> chicken salad out of chicken poop. >> judge jeanine: arthur, doctor and fred thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: coming up you won't believe what our creep of the week did to this 89-year-old woman. this is your last chance. facebook me tweet if you think punxsutawney phil should get death penalty f f f f f f f ♪
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>> judge jeanine: now, time for creep of the week. margaret smith who turned 89 years old just last week thought she was doing a good deed when she agreed to give two teen girls a ride home from a delaware convenience store. instead of thanking the senior citizen the girls stole her keys and $500 and threw her into the trunk of her own car. for the next 48 hours they drove around with margaret still in the trunk an ordeal she describes as a rollercoaster ride. her body slamming into the walls of the trunk. without food, water and her medicine, margaret was
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petrified. after almost two days the trunk was opened. and smith was left alone and barefoot in a local cemetery. she was unable to stand. so she crawled across the graves until she was found by a groundskeeper. she is now in the hospital recovering. five teens face charges ranging from robbery carjacking and kidnapping and are in custody. one being charged as a minor so his name isn't released. the other four named by police and named by me as creeps of the week. julia mcdonald. jacqueline perez. harper and philipp brewer. unfortunately for margaret, no good deed goes unpunished. for now the creeps will face their own punishment and in the afterlife if there is one they will have a special place in hell. and now, it is time for the results of our insta-poll. an ohio prosecutor has indicted
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punxsutawney phil after an awful prediction this year. we asked you should the four legged forecaster get the death penalty. murray wouldll mother nature vote. >> there is no way that this winter is ever going to end as long as this groundhog keeps seeing his shadow. i don't see any other way out. he has got to be stopped. >> judge jeanine: here is what you you had to say. rebecca says if giving incorrect information were a death penalty most politicians would have already been executed. and he steve says make him a politician. says one thing and does the opposite. and karen, absolutely not. with all of the lycoming from the white house, phil is actually he looking pretty darn
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good. and george, not only should he get the death penalty, he should be served for lunch. well, it was 80 here in texas today so i kind of like the little guy. go ahead, rub it in. that's it for us tonight. captioned by closed captioning michael, tell us why you used to book this fabulous hotel? well you can see if the hotel is pet friendly before you book it, and i got a great deal without bidding. and where's your furry friend? oh, i don't have a cat. now you can save up to 50% during priceline's spring hotel sale use promo code spring for additional savings on all express deals, including pet friendly hotels. express deals. priceline savings without the bidding.

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